Okay We Know The Personnel – It is Your Team – What Are You Gonna Do?
January 17th, 2017 by Jeffrey Lubeck

The MSU Men’s Basketball team is 12-7 (4-2 BIG).  The grind of the MSU B1G regular-season is put on hold for a mini-break with resumption this weekend against Indiana in Bloomington.

In a command decision, you have put in charge of the squad through the end of the year.

Tell us your plan (and be specific) so as to keep MSU’s NCAA Tourney streak alive.

44 Responses  
  • BostonSpartan writes:
    January 17th, 20172:01 pmat

    I am not a fan of the wholesale substitution for no good reason habit. I would get rid of that. But apparently ‘that is what we do’.

    • USMC Retired writes:
      January 17th, 20172:53 pmat

      have to agree the ‘this is what we do’ only works with 12 true scholarship players – not this bunch of 8 + walk ons

    • Jeffrey Lubeck writes:
      January 17th, 20179:22 pmat

      Each and every day I awake and consult Higher Ups… Their Response: What Would BostonSpartan Do?

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 17th, 20172:50 pmat

    Play the 4 Frosh and whomever can help them the most – if it’s a BIG team then another BIG, if it’s fast then suck it up with Tum, but don’t let him be the point with this group.

    If harris seems to be hitting his 1st shot, let him play till he don’t anymore (and don’t bring him back)

    If Ellis doesn’t have his head __________, then play him.

    Do NOT play McQ until he learns to do something other than swing the ball in front of him.

    Play the walk-ons when needed to spell folks, but not as a staple or as a group

  • Kindle writes:
    January 17th, 20173:44 pmat

    Okay. Thanks Jeff! The first thing I’m doing is giving Izzo a break from the rigors of coaching the team. “Sit down and cool off TI. Don’t even think about screaming. TUS will do enough of that, and throw bricks besides, if my plan falters.”

    Current effort not legit. I asked Dane Fife what he would do differently. (I had a huge plan already! Just wanted to see if he knew what he was talking about.) Fife agreed, this has been a rigged team and the media share the blame for over-hyping certain players. Fake News!! The playbook, calling for 30 seconds of dribbling and passing along with automatic/timed substitutions is a garbage document. There has been a lot of talk, talk, talk with no action or results. Losing because the whole campaign is without enthusiasm. I want my team to feel free to express themselves. Also, we are switching from Nike to LL Bean and I encourage you all to do the same.

    So amazing was my plan that when I compared it to Fife’s his was a carbon copy. Team’s gonna soar under my leadership. Not going to be a flunky and I will have great press conferences. I know basketball better than The General.

    Here goes:

    Discipline and wanting players to earn their minutes are fine. However, Winston is now playing scared. While he is only a freshman he is leading the Big Ten in assists despite playing half a game on average. This kid needs more than 20 minutes a game and he gets it on my team. Winston also has an assist percentage (passes that end up being assists) of 54.7% on the season and 51.8% in conference games compared to Nairn’s paltry 17.7%. Guess who my full-time point guard is?!?! I tell Cassius, “Just go out there and create. Do your thing and don’t worry if you make a goof. Stop looking over your shoulder. You are staying in and playing ~~ period.”

    Langford is my best 3 point shooter at 43.6 %. His 20.2 minutes per game are also ridiculously low.
    He’s a pretty good defender too. Now that I am declaring him fully healed from the early season hamstring issue I’m going to tell Joshua to “bring it every night.”

    With the above two, Cash & Josh in at guard, when Nick Ward and Miles Bridges get double-teamed at least we still have offensive weapons at hand. Those two are the real strength of my team and need the right guards to complement them. I’m declaring Bridges
    and Ward ready for bigger and better things as we move forward.

    I am going to live or die with the four freshmen.

    My fifth starter?? Could be Alvin Ellis or Erin Harris depending on how they practice and also upon opponent match-ups.

    No more “line-changes” for substitutions. Normally, I will substitute one player at a time to get him a rest, perhaps two in other circumstances. All players do not tire at the same rate.
    If a player is tired, he will show me a closed fist signal indicating he is tired and needs to come out. He will know that I will not be mad with him for asking to come out. I’ll let him tell me when he is ready to return to the lineup, but who I put him in for and when will be determined by the game flow.
    Our key subs, and I use the term “key” loosely here, will of course have to see some time on the floor. I guarantee I will not have four bad offensive players on the court at one time. It looks like Ward will need rest more than the others. But he will get stronger.

    Substitutions will be made to strengthen my team’s chance of victory, not merely to make a point or embarrass a player.

    And last but not least–expect to see my vertically challenged team play ZONE DEFENSE!!

    Can we make the tourney-journey with my plan? Jump on the wagon!
    Old plan? Overrated.

    • Jeffrey Lubeck writes:
      January 17th, 20179:27 pmat

      Can I have your Drivers License and Insurance Card? BostonSpartan told me to ask this of you!

      Separately I will run this through the TUS Prediction Modeling Tool. My gut tells me it has promise!

      • BostonSpartan writes:
        January 18th, 20176:53 amat

        I see what you did there in your first paragraph Kindle and I like it. LL Bean. Ha. I agree that your plan has hugely potential.

        And it is good to hear from you Jeff that the Higher Ups are aligned with my suggestions.

  • LeeBee writes:
    January 17th, 20175:54 pmat

    Hopefully the Rutgers hospitalists can find what the Sparrow ones could not. Best wishes and prayers for Suzy.

  • ATLSpartan writes:
    January 18th, 20177:01 amat

    I think it is hard for freshmen to realize how hard they need to play, and how long they must maintain that intensity in order to win B1G games. I hope they grow up quickly.

    I would start:

    Langford – Bridges – McQuaid – Ward – Tum

    Bring in Goins regularly to spell Ward. Ward gets tired and then his fouls mount up.

    Bring in Harris – Cassius – Ellis

    Because all three of these guys bring in scoring off the bench. We get in trouble occasionally because we have lineups with no offensive minded people on the floor.

    Ex: McQuaid – Harris – Goins – Tum will end in a shot clock violation, a walk, or a fumble the ball away.

  • JustABum writes:
    January 18th, 20177:42 amat

    All HAIL Kindle. Mass and scripted substitutions, GONE. Play Man to man, but zone defense must be used, practised until perfected, but used sparingly if mismatches dictate zone

    I am not sure Tum should have more minutes than Winston. Winston knows how to control tempo, score and is a better assist machine than Tum ever can be. Langford’s shooting improvements warrants more minutes and starting

    • USMC Retired writes:
      January 18th, 20178:35 amat


  • 89 Chemistry writes:
    January 18th, 201711:18 amat

    My plan is to delegate authority to this guy —

    Specifically: He has yet to fail to reach the NCAAT since having a full set of recruits. He knows his players better than I do, and knows more about basketball than I do. He has demonstrated an ability to get his teams to the NCAAT despite some awful losses in Januarys and Februarys of the past — implying a not-inconsiderable ability to learn from his mistakes. And since he is being paid a hell of a lot more than TUS is likely to pay any of us for coaching the Spartans, we might as well have him coach for at least the next six weeks.

    • USMC Retired writes:
      January 18th, 201711:21 amat

      In other words: I3T

    • JustABum writes:
      January 18th, 20172:21 pmat

      C’mob 89. This thread is more like rope. we use it to hang ourselves because we are more than acutely aware of TI having forgetten more than we’ll ever know about basketball and this MSU squad… however, TI’s more than capable of a little change and making mistakes. Our” plans” just touch on the TI micromanagement etc that drive us nuts!

      • 89 Chemistry writes:
        January 20th, 201712:33 pmat

        The Spartans are currently third in the B1G despite Izzo striking out on the 2013 and 2014 recruiting classes and having neither Schilling nor Carter available this year. I think the Spartans get in the NCAAT with 19 [or maybe 18] wins. Against that backdrop, the long-term dismay over MSU mbb’s prospects must be grating on me. And yet I had to make sure the Post’s author does not reproach me for commenting here without answering his question as well as I can.

        I hope I can be forgiven for my sporadic ire.

        • JustABum writes:
          January 20th, 20171:48 pmat

          Your assessment is bang on, and I wouldn’t even consider pretending to be a man of the cloth…. but you’re forgiven.

  • 79 Spartan writes:
    January 18th, 20173:43 pmat

    There is a method to TI’s madness (March Madness, that is).

    Gotta get there though, so I just hope these kids understand why they chose to be there and fall in line when asked.

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 18th, 20175:37 pmat

    Whoa, Tigers designate Goss, trade for a .231 hitting Left fielder from Tampa

    • Kindle writes:
      January 18th, 20176:40 pmat

      I’m okay with that. Here are Gose’s stats last year and for his five year career to compare with Mikie Mahtook.

      GOSE–Salary $525,000.00
      Year AB R H HR RBI SB AVG
      2016 91 11 19 2 7 0 .209
      MLB Career 1128 155 271 12 69 57 .240

      We took Mahtook

      By contrast Mikie has only been in the league 2 years and can play all 3 OF positions, his favorite being CF. His fielding average is .986, nearly identical to Gose’s .987

      MAHTOOK–Salary $512,000.00
      Year AB R H HR RBI SB AVG
      2015 105 22 31 9 19 4 .295
      2016 185 16 36 3 11 0 .195
      MLB Career 290 38 67 12 30 4 .231

      In 2009, Mahtook was a part of the 2009 College World Series championship team. As a junior at LSU, Mahtook led the SEC in batting in league play with a .425 average. He also led the league in on-base percentage (OBP) in league play with .538. He hit 14 home runs, drove in 56 runs and stole 29 bases. He was named a first team All-American by Baseball America.

      He put himself on the Tigers’ radar late in the 2015 season when, at Comerica Park, he went 4 for 10 with a double, triple and home run in a three-game series. He will be in the hunt to win the starting center-field spot with JaCoby Jones and Tyler Collins.

      Also, Gose had maturity issues.

      • USMC Retired writes:
        January 19th, 20175:49 amat

        The Goss loss is a gain but I do NOT think he helps this year . Playing Center in Comerica is a different animal. Maybe DJ and Miggy can teach him how to hit the curve/slider

  • Kindle writes:
    January 18th, 20178:38 pmat
  • Kindle writes:
    January 18th, 20178:55 pmat

    Zach Osterman Verified account @ZachOsterma
    OG Anunoby down in a heap under the Penn State basket clutching his right knee. Looks bad. #iubb

    Chris Solari ‏@chrissolari 3h3 hours ago
    Chris Solari Retweeted Zach Osterman

    Could be a big loss for MSU’s next opponent.

    FINAL: IU wins 78-75 over Penn State.

    • USMC Retired writes:
      January 19th, 20175:53 amat

      Was watching that part of that game – he didn’t get up until well after the rest of the team had left the floor and did not return – Creen was crying in the postgame – I think the kids done for awhile

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 19th, 20176:25 amat

    With all the triple double hype that Westbrook is getting, wonder why nobody is flaunting the first(that I’ve ever heard of) Quad-Double – Pt’s, Asts, RB’s and Turn Overs?

  • GoSt8Go writes:
    January 19th, 20175:58 pmat

    Kinda with ’89. Sure, I’m with the next Kindle that the seasons of the last 5 months have been, have been……..enlightening. However, “this ain’t [sic] these two coaches first rodeo” and the last few decades have brought us a lot of……………………………happiness.

    I have felt like this season has some connection to the season(s) with Austin Thornton playing a ton of minutes. Having walk-on type talent play these kinda [sic] minutes isn’t likely to get you to a Final 4, and it will be frustrating at times when you see a non-athletic type guy stone a lay-up that Miles could make when he was 5 (and will still make when he’s Lubeck’s age).

    Now I feel sic [sic].

    • Jeffrey Lubeck writes:
      January 20th, 20177:23 amat

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      • 89 Chemistry writes:
        January 20th, 201712:36 pmat

        If it will make you feel better: You have more hair on your head than I did in my mid-20s…

      • GoSt8Go writes:
        January 20th, 20171:49 pmat

        Shay and Merry Dog are now on the council. They’re reaction – I’m convinced that both look like they just rejected one of your layups and sent the ball out near the flagpole.

        ’89, due to my limited observations, I’m not able to provide a ruling on follicle challenges leaning in either direction – every time I have seen you is with a Spartan Helmet on. I’m now convinced that Spartan helmets were designed so that King Leonidas would keep Xerxes guessing about his locks.

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 19th, 20176:48 pmat

    I think it’s a good thing that we do NOT have to play Ioway at their place – wow

    • GoSt8Go writes:
      January 20th, 20176:58 amat

      bad things seemed to persist during MBall trips to Iowa City. It cannot be among TI’s favorite visits.

      • USMC Retired writes:
        January 20th, 20177:08 amat

        Correct and they play way over their heads at home. Although they lost last night, they cam back from double digit deficits a couple of times and beat PU after losing by 20 @PU

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 20th, 20177:17 amat

    Spartan hockey on BTN:

    Friday, January 20 6:30 PM Michigan State at Michigan

    • 89 Chemistry writes:
      January 20th, 201712:21 pmat

      Michigan is 1-5 in B1G (they beat WI @ Yost); MSU is 0-6. (The GLI game — which the Gulos won in overtime at Joe Louis Arena — does not count in B1G standings.)

      Tomorrow (7 PM Eastern, BTN), MSU hosts Michigan for the only time this season.

      MSU Hockey has a bye next weekend.

      With MSU’s current nine-game losing streak, buzzards are circling:
      (A few other options are offered in the Comments section.)

    • 79 Spartan writes:
      January 20th, 20172:11 pmat

      Thanks again for the heads-up. Battle for the basement, I’m afraid.

  • JustABum writes:
    January 21st, 20172:20 amat

    MSU hockey team gets a win 3-0 !!!

    • Ben Green writes:
      January 21st, 20176:38 amat

      The 5th MSU win of the year (5-15-1) was very satisfying. If you’re having an awful season it’s at least good to beat your hated arch rival. It was all good. Ed Minny got his first career shutout. The shutout was the first for the Spartans at Yost since January 2008. Two goals from the fourth line. Beat them again tonight at Munn! Go Green!

      • USMC Retired writes:
        January 21st, 201710:54 amat

        Sure wish I knew if it was the coaching or the caliber of the recruits, but I don’t know enough to even speculate. All I know is that ever since this mercy hire Spartan hockey has noted a winning record or mattered at all.

  • USMC Retired writes:
    January 21st, 201711:50 amat

    Hey JJ, that Glad Glade homer Jon Crispin actual said last night that they would beat PU today – yea right, the lost by 25

    NJ gets a home win over the Cobs – wow!

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